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2003 manual slipping - clutch or transfer box?

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2003 manual slipping - clutch or transfer box?

Post by coops » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:12 pm

Hi all, I have an odd sensation that’s been happening recently.

When accelerating on medium/hard throttle, there is a loudish drone at 2.5k rpm (sounds like it’s from the front).
Yesterday I when I accelerated from 2k (in 5th) I noticed the revs slide up the 2.5k. (Same drone noise)

Something is definitely slipping - I had originally thought it was the clutch but then remembered that the pre facelift had a viscous transfer box - could it be that instead? Any way to tell or experience from on this from anyone else?

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2003 manual slipping - clutch or transfer box?

Post by X5Sport » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:32 pm

If the clutch does start to slip then you’ll probably start to smell it before too long!
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Post by coops » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:42 am

Ha yeah ok, good point! Are these the symptoms of a transfer box fail or 99% likely the clutch? Need to get it sorted before it fails but don’t want to do the clutch and find it’s not that!

There is judder if I don’t give it quite enough revs which makes me think it is the clutch

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Post by X5Sport » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:55 pm

I’ve never seen anyone refer to a transfer box ‘slipping’ in the way you describe. Sounds more like clutch - and if it is then add a new flywheel too. I think BMW use a dual-mass flywheel and when our E46 was done in 2019 that was changed as well.
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Post by coops » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:18 pm

Cheers for the sanity check. Anyone know what the book time is to get it done? Best part of a day I’d imagine

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Post by X5Sport » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:34 pm

Looking at the manual I would think a day is about right. The gearbox has to come off and that means exhaust, underbody protection and support structures. Lots of special tools shown as being needed as well (locking things and a compression device as the clutch is self-adjusting so needs to be correctly set up ‘as new’). No mention of needing a new flywheel (phew). All clutch fitting bolts and some jointing compound are listed as ‘must’ be replaced.
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2003 manual slipping - clutch or transfer box?

Post by Leslie » Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:53 am

I'd say the flywheel is more likely than the clutch on my e46 it would lose drive at about 2k revs under load and the rev hand fly round to 4k with no drive :rofl:
The droning sounds quite like the flywheel is getting more than it can handle and is starting to slip, they tend to rattle at idle when worn.

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