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Some help needed, E53 3.0L Diesel starting probs

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Some help needed, E53 3.0L Diesel starting probs

Post by baconbuttyman » Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:00 pm

My wife owns an E53.
For month now i have been tracking down the reason for a none starting issue,
It will fire up in a morning ok, run around for a few hours and then stop, turn it off for a short time like to go into a shop etc, then it wont fire up again.
leave it for a while then it fires up.
I have replaced the following.

Relay in the e-box
relay on top of the fuse box (bit of a bugger to get to tho, glove box out etc)
Relay in the boot fuse box.
Fuel filter
higher fuel pump
Fuel pressure sensor.

I have had it into a BMW specialist which is not a dealership, in Blackpool (Auto-technique) and they were stumped, they guaranteed it was the fuel pump, £372 later, it didn't solve a thing.

We took it back to the specialist after it did it again, AA attended the car, they got it going with a squirt of bradex easy start, The specialist retraced his steps, he was the one today who replaced the relay in the e box, as they are a specialist, i am assuming they replaced the correct one. They had is nearly 3 days.
They are really scratching their heads on this

Wifey collected the car today under the instruction of "see how it goes", She stopped to get some meat from the butcher shop, low and behold it did not start, sprayed some easy start in the air intake, and it fired up no problems.

Is that a clue as the the cure to the issue, i know what easy start does and how it starts a car but, why is it curing the issue, what is is curing to start the car.

We have it booked into the main dealership in Preston for 2 hour diagnostics, but has any one any ideas as to what the issue could be after reading all this info  :( :( :(

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Re: Some help needed, E53 3.0L Diesel starting probs

Post by Alan Gunn » Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:35 pm

I would have a leak-off test done.
My money is on 1 or2 injectors need changing.

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Re: Some help needed, E53 3.0L Diesel starting probs

Post by Horizon » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:36 pm

[quote="Alan Gunn"]
I would have a leak-off test done.
My money is on 1 or2 injectors need changing.
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As Alan says difficulty starting when warn/ hot due to leaking injectors has been reported several times on here.
The hot injectors cause rail pressure to drop, sometimes throwing a fault code .
Worth a punt. Having a leak off test done.
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Re: Some help needed, E53 3.0L Diesel starting probs

Post by baconbuttyman » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:35 pm

some one elsewhere suggested cam shaft sensor, i may just try this as par for the course, where would i find the CS sensor

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Re: Some help needed, E53 3.0L Diesel starting probs

Post by Alan Gunn » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:07 am

Top front of the engine before the injector just one torque screw.
I also changed my cam-sensor in an attempt to solve the same problem but to no avail.
2 injectors later and it starts as soon as i turn the key hot or cold.

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Re: Some help needed, E53 3.0L Diesel starting probs

Post by X5-D-Sport » Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:23 pm

Lots of potential causes here.
Injector pressure is a likelihood...

Additionally electrical connections.... I had an identical issue, turned out to be a loose connection on the injector loom.... electrical resistance increases with heat on a poor connection & thus causes more heat etc etc.
Diesels are a high vibration engine type & the constant vibration will keep re-making the connection...
until the engine stops, the connectors are still hot for some while later & it will not re-start until cooled down....

For a simple check, re-connect any connections you can see under the engine cover, it is possible that a previous owner didnt snap the connections shut properly.

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