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North South debate
Re: North South debate
Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
Re: North South debate
[quote="535dboy"]
Gulp
Nice to have somebody as opinionated as me!!!
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Judging by your respective post lengths, your styles couldn't be more different though! You're certainly from the 'short, sharp shock' school of thought!
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Huck (iPhone mode!)
Gulp
Nice to have somebody as opinionated as me!!!
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Judging by your respective post lengths, your styles couldn't be more different though! You're certainly from the 'short, sharp shock' school of thought!
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Huck (iPhone mode!)
Re: North South debate
[quote="huck"]
[quote="535dboy"]
Gulp
Nice to have somebody as opinionated as me!!!
[/quote]
Judging by your respective post lengths, your styles couldn't be more different though! You're certainly from the 'short, sharp shock' school of thought!
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Huck (iPhone mode!)
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Yes
[quote="535dboy"]
Gulp
Nice to have somebody as opinionated as me!!!
[/quote]
Judging by your respective post lengths, your styles couldn't be more different though! You're certainly from the 'short, sharp shock' school of thought!
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Huck (iPhone mode!)
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Yes
Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
Re: North South debate
[quote="535dboy"]
Yes
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LOL!!!
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Huck (iPhone mode!)
Yes
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LOL!!!
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Huck (iPhone mode!)
Re: North South debate
[quote="huck"]
[quote="535dboy"]
Yes
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LOL!!!
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Huck (iPhone mode!)
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[quote="535dboy"]
Yes
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LOL!!!
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Huck (iPhone mode!)
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Currently :
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
2012 Audi RS4 (B8)
2012 Porsche Boxster S (981)
2008 Lotus Exige S (a bit modified!)
2015 Nissan Leaf twin turbo with Nitros
Previously :
2008 BMW X5 3.0sd MSport
2005 BMW 535d MSport
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Re: North South debate
[quote="Nat"]
I think dealers take the piss , and have absolutely no sympathy for them. Its just outright greed.
I concede condition/provenance is everything, but IMHO dealers seem to have got greedier recently. I don't mind someone making a living, but found them insulting.
If you car has all the supporting paperwork and is priced correctly I think there are plenty of buyers out there. Too many people see their car at a dealer for £10 k and put theirs up for £9995. It's not going to happen people.
I had a 4.8 iS, under 64 K on the clock in lovely condition with reams of history all from BMW , great spec and still under full BMW warranty.........so needed nothing. Not even preparation IMO you could have stuck it on a forecourt as it was. Crap 4.8's were selling for £11/15 K all with higher mileages and all without the benefit of a full BMW warranty. Lower specs too. Thus I should have put mine up for sale @ the top end of that range, say £14. Instead I advertised it for £11 to leave a little something on the table for the next owner.
What did the dealer offer in P/ex against a brand new X5 ................£6-6,500. Piss taker. Hence I didnt buy a new car from him, nor the other 4 dealers I went to. Nor will they get servicing or any business out of me. I offered 1 local dealer the car on a sale of return basis , sell it and you get £1000.............wasn't interested, aptly not enough money in it. Greedy wankers.
Anyway, my car sold straight away and there were 3 other buyers waiting to have it if the original buyer had fallen through.
I would rather have sold it for £5000 to another enthusiast than a greedy dealer for more.
I absolutely hate them.
Eventually I found a great dealer, a family run business, not a multi chain dealership like say Coopers BMW or Sytners BMW ( both of which seem to have multiple dealerships ) who have so far given me great service and I hope to give them all my business, because they didn't take the piss.
Just my opinion,
Regards,
Nat.
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Well put, they tell us all day "its a recession guv, can't give you a better price for your car" when they're taking PX's, and then put them up for stupid money above better private cars whilst telling buyers whatever they want to hear to get the sale. The joke is that as far as aftersales goes, most (non-franchise) dealers will do nothing if you have a problem, and most franchise dealers will fix one problem and leave 3 more in its place.
I think dealers take the piss , and have absolutely no sympathy for them. Its just outright greed.
I concede condition/provenance is everything, but IMHO dealers seem to have got greedier recently. I don't mind someone making a living, but found them insulting.
If you car has all the supporting paperwork and is priced correctly I think there are plenty of buyers out there. Too many people see their car at a dealer for £10 k and put theirs up for £9995. It's not going to happen people.
I had a 4.8 iS, under 64 K on the clock in lovely condition with reams of history all from BMW , great spec and still under full BMW warranty.........so needed nothing. Not even preparation IMO you could have stuck it on a forecourt as it was. Crap 4.8's were selling for £11/15 K all with higher mileages and all without the benefit of a full BMW warranty. Lower specs too. Thus I should have put mine up for sale @ the top end of that range, say £14. Instead I advertised it for £11 to leave a little something on the table for the next owner.
What did the dealer offer in P/ex against a brand new X5 ................£6-6,500. Piss taker. Hence I didnt buy a new car from him, nor the other 4 dealers I went to. Nor will they get servicing or any business out of me. I offered 1 local dealer the car on a sale of return basis , sell it and you get £1000.............wasn't interested, aptly not enough money in it. Greedy wankers.
Anyway, my car sold straight away and there were 3 other buyers waiting to have it if the original buyer had fallen through.
I would rather have sold it for £5000 to another enthusiast than a greedy dealer for more.
I absolutely hate them.
Eventually I found a great dealer, a family run business, not a multi chain dealership like say Coopers BMW or Sytners BMW ( both of which seem to have multiple dealerships ) who have so far given me great service and I hope to give them all my business, because they didn't take the piss.
Just my opinion,
Regards,
Nat.
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Well put, they tell us all day "its a recession guv, can't give you a better price for your car" when they're taking PX's, and then put them up for stupid money above better private cars whilst telling buyers whatever they want to hear to get the sale. The joke is that as far as aftersales goes, most (non-franchise) dealers will do nothing if you have a problem, and most franchise dealers will fix one problem and leave 3 more in its place.
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Re: North South debate
Part of the reason I bought my car on the mainland was in part due to the poor px the local dealer offered. Not that I expected anything less. They have always tried to get px's for bottom $. Back in the days when X5s were sort after and had nine month waiting lists I wanted to px a pre facelift E53 for a post facelift E53. The car was six months old with around 15k on the clock. New price was circa £45k. Px offer. £41k. Contacted a load of dealers on the mainland and accepted an offer of £44k. This included them coming over to collect the car in person. Six months X5 ownership for £1k was a real bargain.
Don
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