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E70s, with halogen lighting

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Post by Poppin » Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:31 am

I'm down in Cornwall - kind of you to offer though thanks.
Yes I'd probably go for spacers in that case.
I want the M Sport for all the spec stuff, but I don't want the M Sport for the sporty ride and look. Tricky!

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Post by sapphireblack » Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:54 am

Update!

There has been much happening following conversations with BMW and my nearest dealership. £205 inclusive to supply and fit whatever this damned bulb is. I've asked for confirmation of the bulb type and whether wheel removal etc is necessary, if it is as I am advised, then the handbook is clearly incorrect, and i will seek some input from BMW.

Watch this space.

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Post by sapphireblack » Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:26 am

BMW have agreed to pay the dealer to replace this bulb while the car is having the front airbags replaced.

When i asked the dealer if this was an admission that the supplied handbook was woefully inaccurate, i received a rather bland non commital answer. Regardless, the outcome for me is the same, for which i am grateful. It was neither a job i fancied doing and even less, one i was happy to pay for.

For the second time in many years of BMW ownership, i am pleased at the outcome of complaining to the makers. Its nice to be heard and responded to positively.

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Post by Greydog » Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:58 pm

What a result
Well done you :D

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Post by X5Sport » Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:06 pm

The handbook for my i4 still showed completely the wrong gear shifter (think X6 type lever) for months after BMW stopped using them and went to a simple switch. They do have a bad rep for crap manuals.
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Post by sapphireblack » Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:12 pm

X5Sport wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:06 pm The handbook for my i4 still showed completely the wrong gear shifter (think X6 type lever) for months after BMW stopped using them and went to a simple switch. They do have a bad rep for crap manuals.
Very poor and very surprising :(

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Post by sapphireblack » Sat Jul 12, 2025 8:37 pm

X5Sport wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 11:08 am I’ve found this in the manual for the E70/71 for halogen headlights. I don’t remember coming across a lever in the Xenon lights, but the manual says it’s there. The manual is a PDF that covers all models (including other parts of the world). The E70 is top left. I’m not sure the X6 ever came with halogens. I believe, but am happy to relearn, that the idea behind the flat beam fitted to Xenon type lights avoided any need to change. I would have thought that just adjusting the beam heights might solve the issue….if there is one?

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Could i trouble you, when convenient, to tell me what page that scan is from? I can't find a Driving Precautions heading in the index of the manual i have. Though 2009 30d and an LCI 40d could be different i cant see any levers in the picture i took of the right side low beam unless its the sort of highlighted item with 'two eyes', i cant imagine how that would slide?
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Post by X5Sport » Sat Jul 12, 2025 9:27 pm

Page 150 of the BMW On Line manual that downloads into the BMW Guide App. Publication date is August 2010. That’s from before when my X6 was built so must have been the correct version at the time. The on line manual covers all versions and all markets for E70 & E71 as well as the X5M and X6M

You might find it in the printed version under ‘Driving Hints’ as that’s the section it appears in.
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Post by sapphireblack » Sat Jul 12, 2025 11:11 pm

Curious indeed. The handbook with the car is bereft of pages 150, 151, those are actually the double page introduction to the Navigation section. Things obviously got changed/updated.

I have finally gained access to the online manual, which I will bookmark.

I think my photo does seem to show the adjustment thats visible in your screenshot. I'll have to try some experimental sliding.

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Post by X5Sport » Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:53 am

Managed to find the lever for mine. It is right at the back of the projector itself, so as far forward as you can get in front of and above the actual bulb. I can only see it by using an endoscope and I’m not sure that my large hands can get in there! I’m probably going to have to remove the Xenon bulb itself in order to give me any room.

Why in earth they put it there and restricted access with all the support structures behind it, only BMW will know.

It’s a do it by feel job without any doubt. No chance of doing it visually.
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Post by X5Sport » Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:02 am

It’s the black lever on the left side of this image. It’s actually on top of the bulb so rotate the image clockwise 90° to tell you where it actually is. In other words Left in the image is the top on the car.
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This is on a Xenon car. The E70 doesn’t need adjustment but the X6 with bi-Xenon does. The inner light is fake and for show as we know.
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Post by sapphireblack » Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:15 am

Well it seems an E70 with halogens has one easier step than a Xenon equiped car.

There must be a reason for all these tricky tasks that should be straightforward. As previously noted, dealer visits for everything to swell the networks coffers?

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Post by X5Sport » Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:40 am

I think we’re on the same page!

I rang my Dealer in Friday to book the car in for an off-spec (early) major service ahead of driving in France in a few weeks. I got offered a £40 ‘safety check’. When I asked for a major service they asked me what I wanted done! Given it’s off a menu based system I was somewhat thrown. Did I want an oil change, or filters changed, front brakes replaced, may be a fuel filter? No a major service is what I wanted. Because it was ‘off-spec’ they didn’t know what to do, and when I asked for an AC check to be done at the same time I might have well have been asking for a seat to Mars! It was a central contact centre, so I told them they weren’t meeting my needs and I will go into the main dealer to talk to someone who knows me, my car, and isn’t reading off a script. Oh and they can do the bl**dy lights at the same time :D
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Post by sapphireblack » Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:49 am

The call centres are as much use as a chocolate teapot. The BMW helpline isn't much if any better. During my recent conversations they advised me several times that they are not technically trained, and they defer to their network of dealers who are technically trained. Oh really 🤔

No dealership i have ever visited has offered AC work.

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Post by X5Sport » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:34 pm

Interesting. I’ve never had AC looked at. Mine does offer a recharge / refresh service but the phone drone was clueless. Going direct and in person is the answer it seems.
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